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 i think that this discussion will not be fruitful in any way as long as the terminology isn't established.. We need to be on the same page first, to have the same definition of "Life" and its "anthropic importance" before we can continue.


What I'm saying is, as long as there is no persuasive argument against the abrahamic God's existence/omnibenevolency (as this seems to be an interpretation of His law), any discussion will be futile, due to the simple fact that the concept of God is a foot in the door that introduces the factor of divine inerrancy, which vetoes any rational thought on basis of a claim, and this brings a flood of a whole doCtrine that does not fit the bill for the burden of proof it has.


it is explicitly shown that YHWH does condone such acts. That is fact. But I'm referring to the concept of an omnibenevolent God that the people here most likely believe in, since theists have and can always cherry pick their verses to define the ideals of their current morality. the heart of this argument is not in the subject of abortion_____ it is in the Word of God (that one believes to be omnibenevolent)?


 [1] i know believers would bring up the justification of how this is a jealous and righteous God at work, doling out judgement bcs he's the cause and the effect and he holds the rights to create and destroy,, like the flood as a genocide? [2] There's a ton of scripture to deal with, and apologists will defend every one of them in unique ways, but one popular defense for Christians would be Jesus (of the new testament) spreads the message contrary to the pillaging in the Old Testament, as the judgement of death for sin in general is already paid by hiS ultimate sacrifice.


Christians believe in an omnibenevolent God. Unfortunately, to deny God's omnibenevolence would only bring alternative interpretations of doctrine into the picture. we would have to deny God's existence as a basis for the moral argument of abortion as an objective sin, as, want it or not, this current belief system of Christianity holds on to the idea that God has mandated modern pro-life perspectives as his Law.


tldr: if we accept that God doesn't exist, his laws don't either. If we accept that God exists, we'll be stuck forever trying to piece out which interpretive literary piece of the Bible can and can't be trusted

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